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Unread 20th April, 2005, 04:54 PM
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Unread 20th April, 2005, 10:34 PM
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How about supporting RocketArena also ^^ ?
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Unread 20th April, 2005, 11:13 PM
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Make a poll like in NBSP topic, who wants UTPure to support all gametypes ? yeah, me and me, please, please. I'm sure it'll work. :F There is a certain reason why UTPure does not support other gametypes, the PlayerPawn class. Almost every bigger mod uses its own one, and since UTPure's protection relies on controlling this class by providing its own one(based on the original), it would be very hard to make a separate UTPure version for each mod, especially when a mod does not provide a clear sourcecode. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

NBSP biggest advantage and disadvantage at the same time is not relying on a PlayerPawn class, the advantage is every mod compatibility, the disadvantage is a worse protection.
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 03:16 AM
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Doesn't UTDC work with the SL and RX?
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 03:45 AM
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Yep... ok so then our players go find one of 10,000 hax that are not hooks :S

And NBSP gives us so many false positives that it cannot possibly be used. (though I think we all hope that project will be taken over and tweaks will go into it)
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 05:52 AM
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When was the last time UTPure or CHSP was updated?
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 09:02 AM
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Pure7G is atleast 5 month now, and contains enhancement to actual game rather than the anticheat part. ( tho I'm sure they exist )

CSHP hasn't been updated in years
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 12:24 PM
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The last few were more anticheat that enhancements I think, but there is only TNSe who works on it and im not sure he plays UT99 anymore :?
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 06:06 PM
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So it's safe to say that those "10,000 hax that are not hooks" already defeats UTPure and CHSP? So having them is still rather pointless?
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 06:29 PM
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No, what he's saying is that, if UTPure is hacked, uscript cheats can be used. UTDC can prevent this by checking the integrity of UTPure files. Btw, I'd like to know what the problem between UTPure & RocketX is. I do know that weapon mutators with customized HUDs need to be modified a bit to work properly.

P.S: CHSP is old as the hills in gaming terms ^^ .
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 06:41 PM
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No, what he's saying is that, if UTPure is hacked, uscript cheats can be used. UTDC can prevent this by checking the integrity of UTPure files.



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Strangelove and Rocket WILL NOT work on arena mode with UTPure (any recent version) [modifies HUD]

Any server that runs UTPure and Strangelove arena kicks EVERY player off the server when they alt-fire.

So now that is 2 fields... UTDC and NBSP

UTDC has major lag issues on SLV servers because SLV is a CPU hog like none other.
NBSP hasn't got a single coder on it now, and it has too many false positives.

Our Strangelove 2 servers have around 500 unique players a day, and we have no protection for them. I have sent more PMs and e-mails than I can even imagine to both sides (Pure and SLV), and Pure team doesn't repond... SLV team is non-existant, and Al (0fus - developer) and his team disappeared ages ago.
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Maybe that NBSP 1.08b should be released to public ... I'll ask someone, maybe Anthrax cause he was the last person who was working on NBSP, and maybe he will be working on it again someday but now he is very very busy.
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Unread 21st April, 2005, 10:56 PM
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Sorry for the very late response - I've only just seen this post - but Strangelove works fine with UTPure 7E - see it on unreal://213.230.200.213:7733
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Unread 17th July, 2005, 06:06 PM
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Not with area mutator enabled
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Unread 31st July, 2005, 09:21 AM
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Sorry for the very late response - I've only just seen this post - but Strangelove works fine with UTPure 7E - see it on unreal://213.230.200.213:7733
hey matt, you are still dreaming of a compatible UTPure ? :p

hey truff, haven't u noticed it misses the crosshair on your strangelove launcher?

UTPure does not allow crosshair on sl weapons, it sux when we use sl arena because we have to aim with the yellowjacket (this replaces the enforcer).
UTPure also changes the sl's physics (matt try to hit a wall with pure enabled).

I think i know how to get the crosshair working back. for the physic idk.
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talk to the guy that makes cshp for assault servers, id imagine it could be used for strange love.
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Unread 31st July, 2005, 12:19 PM
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hello athos


Still dreaming yes

Actually the new UTDC is working fine, and has made the servers secure. We also use ASH and MMC, which catch bad mod menu idems, as well as actors that may be running. Even though almost all of this could be bypassed by a hack, most people are not that smart, so we've been very good off so far.


Does anyone know where to actually get the REAL CSHP source code?
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Unread 31st July, 2005, 01:02 PM
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Does anyone know where to actually get the REAL CSHP source code?
the cshp 4+ code was released a few years ago, you should still be able to find it using google
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Unread 31st July, 2005, 01:11 PM
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googled using "CSHP source code" search pattern, http://tost.tactical-ops.de/filestor...P40-Source.zip , in the first result :F
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