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  #21  
Unread 28th September, 2004, 08:56 AM
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can i please be added.

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Unread 29th September, 2004, 01:44 AM
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i would like to be added.

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Unread 1st October, 2004, 07:32 AM
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Can i be added to please..?

admin at www.umxtreme.com Duesers

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(I'm new here and this is my first post, but I'm so interested in the anti-cheat utdc thingie)

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Unread 6th October, 2004, 08:46 PM
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Ok I'm guessing nobody is being responded to on this thread??

I have never been added
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Unread 7th October, 2004, 12:03 AM
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i would also like to be added. i run [NBSP] zp -=]Little|Horn[=- Non Official Cover, which is a temporary server under many anti cheat tests, but i am currently building a second pc to takeover with my findings full time in the business centre. server ip is in my profile, give me a buzz if u want it up at a specific time and if im on il get it running

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Unread 7th October, 2004, 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleHorn
i would also like to be added.
Didnt you make a post yourself about trying to cheat on Jolt?
None of my business, I just find it odd
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Unread 7th October, 2004, 03:10 PM
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He also added that he did it out of frustration trying to get in touch with someone who could provide information about what anti-cheat system it was running. Not that this makes things right.
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Unread 7th October, 2004, 04:16 PM
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^^ i agree, not right, but either way i dont see it as a problem. i run a public server and i am also against cheating (except for using cheats to detect cheats no which seems a good idea). either way im seeing the doc about my "frustration" probs today, just cause i had one little outburst does not mean im a cheater. i think its ignorant to ban someone on the detection of cheats either way. its pathetic to trust anti cheats which arent perfect and have much problems especially with the public. the actual reason i wanted to contact an admin so much was because i found the helios hook archive which was later deleted i believe and so i wanted to get that knowledge into the right hands. otherwise if i had said hey people theres a new website with all the hooks where do i go to get it banned - people will just go there to cheat on purpose and those servers without the advantage of private anticheats would be hit quite badly. but now its sorted i can at least give reason for my actions. i think it was justified.

perhaps that could be an idea for new anti-cheat coding. use sections of the code and encorporate it into a detection system that will almost mimic the radars but only for use within demos so you can watch and find out if there was a cheater in your server. that way you dont get caught for cheats being used to detect cheats. it could also be coded into the file that as its being installed on your pc, it will disable all other cheats if any are installed. this would be good for the anti cheaters out there because then they could have ways to detect cheats but also be forced to not have other cheats in there. why they would need cheats if they have a new way to detect cheats is beyond me tho

i dont know why this hasnt been though of before. a new demo player which will allow users to play back the demo with a radar in it. it could use a specific coding which is only applicable to demos aswell or something should be done to it so extracts of the code cannot be used to make a cheat.

either way im asking to be added. if not then i cant do anything about it. i want to be a help is all and i want to be on top of things and know how the anti cheats are going and perhaps i can also help. i dont want to run a server left in the dark for cheaters to come to especially as i use it for clanbase matches. although it is not necissarily my choice if they refuse to allow me in.

If the UT "admins" want to govern the game then i would like to be a part of it and i believe public input is a very large part of it too, otherwise who are we governing. this whole idea of admins and governing is a sort of co-operation which i find to be admirable, but i do believe there are many ways in which it could be improved. (if i get negative feedback for such an opinion i will thank that person for proving my point). my opinion is just an opinion, but is reinforced by the amount of complaints that come from the public and also the way things are dealt with in real life.

but as i have said before, why ban on the first offence or just upon detection of a non active cheat. until we have perfect anti cheats which will enable us to check to a point where we know without a doubt whether someone is using a cheat for cheating puposes i believe a one offence ban is childish and ignorant.

that is what we are aiming for isnt it. otherwise why have more anti cheats in development - there are no current cheats which have been developed yet which pass the private protection in jolt etc and UTDC v12b has not been faulted for detecting and preventing hooks. so i presume we are looking for something better and more permanent than the current anti cheats whch come in all shapes and sizes and run god knows how many checks on clients etc.

simply put i would like to be a part for the same reason others have posted their submissions. i want to help, i want to be a part of a team and hopefully work towards a faultless anti cheat system and obviouslty a better way to deal with the people who actually use cheats to cheat.

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Unread 7th October, 2004, 04:20 PM
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oops thats a long one. i think i brought up a few points worth saying though. its like if we have global banning on UT99 i would not be a part of it. so far i will not trust the judgement of other admins. there are too many flaws and we might aswell let the public use a ban function rather than a kick function. it can however be stopped with improvements to the anti cheat system and thats where the help is needed and what i want to be a part of. fix that and with the help of things like anti flood and easy mute we can finally have friendly servers with control and fun at the same time. sounds good to me

simply put its a game i love and i want to be able to keep that and keep playing and allow others to play with no problems.

i think the best idea is to have an updated UT patch. in the auto unzip ie 436b 440b and 451b or something named like that. all problems should be improved upon. that way the download of anticheat dlls is not necessasary as all who need to update will also have all anticheats installed. we can then run a simple check like a validator to check for the new files and any tampering... i have lots of ideas like that and would like to see some of them put through. i really want to help and be a part of this. if such a community is made theres no limits to the progression we can make together, i think i can help and i want to put a stop to cheats.

its not odd, its something i enjoy and want to be a part of to improve. whats odd is the anti cheat systems running at the moment and the way things are run... which is where i think i come in - i would like to have improvements to put on my server in the local business centre for WAN/LAN games and internet UT99 games.

oh and az if you want to query my server now its been up for a while now... im off to newent for my appointment. tnx again for the suggestion Fearless, il ask about them today

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Unread 7th October, 2004, 08:01 PM
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Please add me , too


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Unread 8th October, 2004, 12:54 PM
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Sorry to the admins, didnt mean to knock the thread off topic.
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Unread 8th October, 2004, 01:00 PM
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makes no difference m8. it doesnt seem to be going anywhere at the moment.....
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Unread 12th October, 2004, 06:13 AM
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Please add me too:

UTClassic servers at:

69.28.220.196 - 44oz DonutHole Turbo IG 140/35/RG Server
69.28.220.123 - [bp] Pug server
69.28.241.120 - IBPuggin Pug Reg. IG Server
69.28.241.121 - (Coming Soon) Specialty/Mods Server
69.28.220.211 - |NiSa| Clan Server IG 100
69.28.220.212 - Donut's DM Pro Player Server
69.28.220.213 - Turbo IG Pug Server
69.28.241.122 - Monster Hunt Server

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Unread 15th October, 2004, 10:24 PM
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please add to admin forum...

[bp] ut servers which I run/own:
67.18.232.114
67.18.232.115
67.18.232.117

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on a side note, was everyone deleted from the admin only fourms? (had access before, but it's not showing up anymore.)

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Unread 18th October, 2004, 06:24 AM
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Servers:
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Unread 18th October, 2004, 12:55 PM
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Can I have that access too, Server is : 213.230.209.87:7300

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Unread 22nd October, 2004, 04:59 PM
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My server IP is in my profile, as requested.

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Unread 25th October, 2004, 01:45 PM
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Server IP in my profile, ty.

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Unread 26th October, 2004, 01:26 AM
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