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Totally, start coding the UT port! 55 94.83%
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Unread 8th October, 2008, 01:59 AM
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im all for equal gunning.
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but needs a ban system for hardware..
hash of system.. ^^
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Unread 8th October, 2008, 10:19 PM
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Ban system could be seperate imo, and even then you would need separate libraries for linux/mac/win. Doable but would take some time.
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Ban system could be seperate imo, and even then you would need separate libraries for linux/mac/win. Doable but would take some time.
yes, but it is very important... ^^
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Ring 3 Hardware ban systems are utterly useless. Not entirely useless, but more like Iraq's military, or mexican border patrol. It goes something like this..


admin>"i bant u fgt! i r teh winnnnnar!!!"
cheater> click click click (intercepted hardware values, changing values by one byte)
admin>"omg fkn cheeetttter!!!"

Something along the lines of that. Why ban when you can disable and log?

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Nice.
Hope you will be succesfull with this
I can't help you out there because I know nothing about cheat protection thingies but if you wanna have somebody to try it I will do that
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nice to see some good initiave once in a while, count me in for beta-testing it and feedback reports on bugs and stuff.

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A Funny option would be to put in the 0 pixels and 0 resolution when cheating
I remember that from AntiShockHo
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and 'debug crash' so they have to reconfigure and restart everytime
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adminthis, little curious on why you voted "Go home, homeboy"?
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Ring 3 Hardware ban systems are utterly useless. Not entirely useless, but more like Iraq's military, or mexican border patrol. It goes something like this..


admin>"i bant u fgt! i r teh winnnnnar!!!"
cheater> click click click (intercepted hardware values, changing values by one byte)
admin>"omg fkn cheeetttter!!!"

Something along the lines of that. Why ban when you can disable and log?
in my opinion, player that use cheat they don't deserve to play, you can use a hash system, even if the player changes HDD or Processor, you will still have the hash of the other hardwares.
www.ese-protect.de <--- the best anti cheat engine for TO:AoT, use acc system and ban for hash of hardware

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in my opinion, player that use cheat they don't deserve to play, you can use a hash system, even if the player changes HDD or Processor, you will still have the hash of the other hardwares.
www.ese-protect.de <--- the best anti cheat engine for TO:AoT, use acc system and ban for hash of hardware

good luck
I think what he means is that it's possible to intercept any calls that try to retrieve hardwaez information such as MAC addresses.
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in my opinion, player that use cheat they don't deserve to play, you can use a hash system, even if the player changes HDD or Processor, you will still have the hash of the other hardwares.
www.ese-protect.de <--- the best anti cheat engine for TO:AoT, use acc system and ban for hash of hardware

good luck
All I'm saying, I'm for the idea of banning cheaters, but.. Give me 1 hour OllyDbg, IDA, and MASM, and their precious hardware bans are rendered useless. Now give these tools to someone who is actually GOOD at reverse engineering... If an amateur like me can do it in an hour, you get what I'm saying..

P.S. First milestone, I have uscript/native working in sync (not like the boyband either). Now I'm writing the uscript server classes, and the update protocol. Just thought I'd let you guys know how it's going. I do have to give a shout out to my boy AnthraX for pointing me into the right direction

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P.S. First milestone, I have uscript/native working in sync (not like the boyband either). Now I'm writing the uscript server classes, and the update protocol. Just thought I'd let you guys know how it's going. I do have to give a shout out to my boy AnthraX for pointing me into the right direction
AnthraX knows his shit, that's for sure. If you need hosting/web space for your projects let me know, I can provide it for you if needed.
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Unread 10th October, 2008, 09:30 PM
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The cheating community will pwn you & your new native anti-cheat ass. Go home, homeboy!

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The cheating community will pwn you & your new native anti-cheat ass. Go home, homeboy!
Better call it the Nub community ,Rejected kids
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So sad but true.

I know one of the top cheat coders in the game and he was/is a GREAT guy but had this cheating virus in his system.

After constantly breaking his balls I will take some very small credit for helping him to the Light. He actually went out, lost a ton of weight and got some pussy and he is now a normal functioning well adjusted human being !

Hackers step away from the keyboard = hacking a 10 year old game is NOT cool.
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The cheating community will pwn you & your new native anti-cheat ass. Go home, homeboy!
Yeah, keep giving this "community" your fifty euro notes. They'll pwn your wallet.
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Yeah, keep giving this "community" your fifty euro notes. They'll pwn your wallet.
lmao. who said I was buying them? I sure the hell didn't. I create them, not buy them.
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lmao. who said I was buying them? I sure the hell didn't. I create them, not buy them.
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