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9th September, 2005, 09:00 AM
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Godlike
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Netherlands.gif
Posts: 377
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People like you are the reason players are reluctant to accept new anticheat. It doesn't matter what is logged, you don't do something with it untill it's illegal.
And kicking unknown sums means you abbandon the principal innocent untill proven guilty. You don't know if it's a illegal package or not.
Last edited by Obsidian : 9th September, 2005 at 09:02 AM.
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9th September, 2005, 10:45 AM
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Dominating
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 162
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Innocent until proven guilty works in the courts, but in a game, where people run the servers and not a huge political entity, it's not practical much of the time. KB first, then get the story later.
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9th September, 2005, 05:13 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Obsidian
People like you are the reason players are reluctant to accept new anticheat. It doesn't matter what is logged, you don't do something with it untill it's illegal.
And kicking unknown sums means you abbandon the principal innocent untill proven guilty. You don't know if it's a illegal package or not.
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Me? I banned not because of the checksum, but because of experience. The fellow sat and squatted the whole time he was in the server. Not sniper maps, mind you, but run and gun maps.
Find a botter, enter him in your buddy list in The All Seeing Eye, and follow him around spectating, and see if you don't find him doing this. (try several, you'll see it)
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9th September, 2005, 08:43 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,566
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torinir
Innocent until proven guilty works in the courts, but in a game, where people run the servers and not a huge political entity, it's not practical much of the time. KB first, then get the story later.
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Well Said.
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9th September, 2005, 09:22 PM
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Killing Spree
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger
FE0656E088236E2F1F1D2195D0AF7040
i believe this checksum is a hack. I could not find it in the list above.
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I was interested to see if any1 had any confirmation on this checksum. I came accross it cause i was in a game )sniper arena( and his bullets were hitting the wall beside me. These bullets about 4 or 5 of them were not the same fire rate as a normal gun/ it was alittle different or faster. It was though a extra bullet or two was in the mix. This happend very fast but i am sure there was too many bullets hitting the wall right by me.. though i wasn't hit as i went into a cave just then.
This along with the players attitude led me to ban em via web admin/ afterward a few players made comments such as they were happy to see em leave.
......I did remember his name and looked it up in the logs. That .ip had no history on the server and seeing that that checksum number was not on the list futher concludes that this checksum it a cheat..Though not 100% sure.
Last edited by Roger : 9th September, 2005 at 09:30 PM.
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9th September, 2005, 09:34 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,029
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Maybe he was messing with gamespeed or found a way to modify firerate ?
__________________
How to feck up a perfectly good game:
UT (1999) = UnbelievableGameSoCoolIMustHelpBringNewPlayers Tournament
UT (2008) = Unreal ThrustMyPrivatePartsInYourFaceBish
And that's probably why UTIII was a relative flop. New game, same sh*thead players ^^.
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9th September, 2005, 09:36 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 875
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AFAIK firerate can't be modified....100% serverside.
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9th September, 2005, 09:43 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Uk.gif
Posts: 1,340
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shambler
AFAIK firerate can't be modified....100% serverside.
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it can if the server is ZP
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9th September, 2005, 11:17 PM
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Killing Spree
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 21
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the server is question is infact zp.. AntiFA is on the server.
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10th September, 2005, 05:50 AM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 875
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Ah....Didn't know it was ZP...then again I'd have thought ZP wouldn't allow for that kind of abuse either.
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10th September, 2005, 07:27 AM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,029
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shambler
AFAIK firerate can't be modified....100% serverside.
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That is not entirely true.
__________________
How to feck up a perfectly good game:
UT (1999) = UnbelievableGameSoCoolIMustHelpBringNewPlayers Tournament
UT (2008) = Unreal ThrustMyPrivatePartsInYourFaceBish
And that's probably why UTIII was a relative flop. New game, same sh*thead players ^^.
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14th September, 2005, 04:55 AM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baiter
I think BL was talking about UTDC17 Screenshot.
@Azura, Do the UTDC Admin Functions work with Hidden Admin?
Here is how you get the screenshots in from the client before they get a chance to disconnect.
(Your Key)=adminlogin(Space)(Server Password)(Space)|(Space)mutate(Space)utdc(Space)sh ot
Example:
X=adminlogin serverpassword | mutate utdc shot
Hope that helped
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Got a botter in the server right now, shooting people through the walls. Went to my user.ini, put this in it
Y=adminlogin ourpassword | mutate utdc shot
went to the server (aliasing) and hit the Y button, and not a danged thing happened.
Can anyone be a bit more specific? He got past everything, and is using a legit renderer dll, darnit.
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14th September, 2005, 08:50 AM
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Killing Spree
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chambersburg, PA
Posts: 47
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omfg dude...
some mod... im trying to remember the name...
recorded all the user.ini key assignments
that that out of your ini NOW!
you join another server and they will know your password
AntiShockHo... that was it...
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14th September, 2005, 08:55 AM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,205
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Well put it in a txt file and use the exec command
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14th September, 2005, 03:47 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,382
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HiddenAdmin as well :\
Anyway did you access your server via FTP and check the /LOGS folder?
If truely nothing happened:
A) Did adminlogin work?
B) Did your server recieve any of the shots, or is it just missing that one player's?
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14th September, 2005, 07:49 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,566
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BLTicklemonster
Got a botter in the server right now, shooting people through the walls. Went to my user.ini, put this in it
Y=adminlogin ourpassword | mutate utdc shot
went to the server (aliasing) and hit the Y button, and not a danged thing happened.
Can anyone be a bit more specific? He got past everything, and is using a legit renderer dll, darnit.
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Worked for me =/
Try putting it into a EXEC Txt File, like I did and see if it works.
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14th September, 2005, 08:50 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,382
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D=exec adminlogin | say LoL | say LoL | say LoL | say LoL | say LoL | say LoL | mutate utdc shot
That's my config ^^
The uber spammage of 'LoL' prevents anyone from noticing the adminlogin.
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14th September, 2005, 08:55 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,004
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Okay, I checked the logs, and nothing was there in the /logs folder. I then went and just hopped right in the server, logged in as admin, mutated the shot, then left, went and looked at the enc, decrypted it, and found that he was not looking at anything of importance at all, no one in sight anywhere. soooo, if he was using a bot that had radar, nothing was visible anyway, if he was using any kind of bot that you can tailor the gui, nothing was visible. Then he left before I could go in. NEXT time, I'm going to try it from spectate mode, dangit. Thanks all. I'll try doing it from a txt file tonight and see what happens. (hmmm, one could do all kinds of stuff that way and keep them hidden coudln't they? Like in the old days, the zellius bot was normally bound to f7 because people just followed the instructions. dang.)
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15th September, 2005, 04:25 PM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew
D=exec adminlogin | say LoL | say LoL | say LoL | say LoL | say LoL | say LoL | mutate utdc shot
That's my config ^^
The uber spammage of 'LoL' prevents anyone from noticing the adminlogin.
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lmao how about | wow you rock! | dude, you got some serious skillsz! | etc, lmao.
(was really busy last night, didn't get to check it out)
OKAY, I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING, THOUGH:
I'm sorry I highjacked this thread! I wonder if an admin could take everthing not pertaining to checksums and make a new thread out of it and move it to the side? This is bad, and I'm sorry for doing this. I really should have started a new thread.
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16th September, 2005, 03:51 AM
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Holy Shit!!
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,004
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As long as I'm hijacking:
Blast it all!!! I can put | say | mutate utdc shot in there along with adminlogin ourpassword, and I see on screen, but no login. I can remove the and just have adminlogin ourpassword | mutate utdc shot, and still nothing.
What am I doing wrong? It works using the login.txt, but only if I want to say something. If I want to actually DO something, nothing happens. So I know that the P=exec login.txt is working okay, but I can't get adminlogin to stinkin' work.
Now if I log in manually, I can press P and I get screenshots, so that much of it works, too. I just can't get it to log in. (no at this point. odd, huh?)
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG
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